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  • The Human Race developed nuclear bombs in the 1940's. The world quickly saw the power of these bombs when The United States first used them on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Since then, many nations have developed nuclear weapons. The Chinese, The Russians, The British, The French, India, Pakistan, etcetera . Scientists today know the danger of such weapons. Not only can they destroy cities, but in a third world war, countries may be tempted to use them, and if one nation fires a nuclear missile, all of them will. Such destruction may not only lead to billions of deaths, but the extinction of most land life, even all life on Earth.

    The United States, The People's Republic of China, and The Russian Federation (the world's leading powers) all have imperial ambitions. War could break out between nations at any time, and it is crucial that nuclear war must be avoided. How? Some have suggested World Unification. Uniting every country under one banner. Some have ventured to call this nation "Terra" or "The Terran Empire." At first, if this were to happen, there would be rebellions and constant conflict, but overall, could it work? Could the world unify to form a civilization that could work together to eliminate the evils of the world and venture out into space, colonizing and terraforming planets and meeting and talking to alien civilizations?

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#1 2015-02-07 18:47:48

          Italy    dc2009
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As a dual citizen and a capitalist, I see the world from a different view. Unification is already underway and you cannot stop it. The new leaders are global multinationals that buy and sell politicians. Ask the Greeks who helped them create their upside down loan arrangement. Why would an American oil industry help the USSR and then Putin if they are antagonists of the USA?
Business interests are always aligned with profit and power. Governments are an anachronism to maintain the illusion of local power for the people.
Incidentally, I am not a fan of what is happening. In the USA, investment bankers are paid many millions of dollars by their firms to take government jobs that affect  financial policy. Thus the masses suffer more indignities.

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#2 2014-07-10 15:35:55

          Taiwan (ROC)    Archduke
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A Terran Empire or Global Directorate....sounds nice.
Unite....yes, China has a boggling 5000 year history of uniting different peoples....the Miao, the Dongyi, the southern Huns, the Xianbei, the Qiang, the Mongols, the Man, and over 50 other races....
A Greater Republic of China....is one of the truly possible options of uniting the world!

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#3 2013-01-28 22:37:07

          Russia    NikoLStak
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If everybody think the same, somebody is not thinking.

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#4 2013-01-27 19:23:15

          United States    calibur
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@SgtPeppers 

Perhaps you are right about nationalism. We are growing together in our respective regions, and the interconnections of regions may eventually bring us together as a world..
However, to suppose that we are at the end, the peak, of ideological development is just as haughty as to suppose we are at the peak of evolution. There will always be advancing ideologies. The battle between Classicalism, Keynesianism, Socialism, and Communism will continue (Communism and purist capitalism are not dead, there will be some rise of them again at some point).
Democracy, full democracy... is perhaps not the best. Certainly, not now, with our widespread stupidity. Not everyone, not even anything close to the majority, has the drive, understanding, and perception, necessary to create an ideal democratic society.

Things will continue to change, mark my words.

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#5 2013-01-27 19:03:29

          Canada    SgtPeppers
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@calibur 

Bear in mind, this is a long term idea, not a project for a decade or a century, but for a millennia.Look at the way history has worked as a story. Every ideology has had its time, the early empires begat smaller monarchies and oligarchies and "democracies" in Greece, which begat another empire in Rome, which begat the middle ages and the rise of feudalism, which led to the reformation which (according to Max Weber) led directly to capitalism, industrialization and democratization. Democracy grew, the old monarchies either died (France, Russia), were exiled (Germany) or were left with no power (The United Kingdom). Then you had 2 utopian ideologies, fascism and communism based around dictatorships rise and fall in quick succession. Now more and more countries are democratic. THis is what Francis Fukuyama called "THe End of History theory". Essentially, the millennia old war of ideas is all but over, the last of the great counter-ideologies are dead and all that remains are a few remnants soon to be swept away. In this view, we now have a situation of prosperity, combined with globalization, a marked decline in nationalism and a decline in religion following the rise of the secular state. Putting this briefly, the last of those things that divide us are being chipped away, and the EU is just the start. The US, Canada and the rest of the Americas are increasingly working as a block (NAFTA being the first step) to compete with the EU and Asia will likely start doing the same. When this occurs, we see ourselves less as citizens of a nation and more as citizens of the world who happen to live in "such and such a place" over time, global consciousness will grow, the old boundaries will die and earth will be a nation-state unto itself.

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#6 2013-01-26 23:01:56

          United States    calibur
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How do we even define unified? One world government? EU-esque confederacy? NATO-style unification of every country?
None of the above is really possible. There will always be competing factions and ideologies. Different countries hold these different things dear, and some simply cannot mesh without falling and being reborn under more similar ideologies (SEE: Cold War)

Even that aside, there will always be terrorist organizations that hold sway with populations and, as they have no responsibility and comparatively little property, perhaps pose more of a threat than other states, as MAD-ness really doesn't apply to them.

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#7 2013-01-26 22:50:04

          United Kingdom    NewAtheist
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It would be nice if this would work, but our patriotic nature seems to prevent if.

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#8 2012-10-23 19:24:39

          Canada    SgtPeppers
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@British Ben 

Who said one leader? It would likely be a democratic governing body, like the UN, but not totally impotent.

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#9 2012-10-17 19:20:50

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If one leader was in control of the whole world that world be a dictatorship that is what all the men who died in ww1 and ww2 gave there lives to prevent.

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#10 2012-10-16 10:09:51

          Germany    Dasding23
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@NikoLStak 

I live in the Federal Republic of Germany which consists of 16 member states so the idea of competing regions in a broader organization doesn't seem too far for me. Also Germany being member of the E.U. this is also a reason for me to believe in a unification of earth.

Maybe the UN has failed right now because of the form of the UN Security Council with its members which can put their veto on anything.
I think there should be no absolute veto in the security council.
This is a real hindrance in making decisions right now.
Maybe in the future they will change but now....

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#11 2012-10-15 21:43:06

          Russia    NikoLStak
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@Dasding23 

I approve. But there is still different way of thinking. Realists and optimists, Godless and religious, communists and capitalists. Some would prefer this way, the other that way.
I ideally see UN in 100 years as a union of countries. Borders, but no rivallery, only competition between union of countries. CSTO, NATO+ANZUS, Muslims United, African Union stabilized, Israel in peace with neighbors. China, US and Russia compete for the biggest amount of aliens killed while EU and Japan compete to create the best technologies. Who's gonna eradicate AIDS first, Jew or Muslims? Are the capitalists going to crush E.T first or communists?
(Humoristic description)

Anyway all this to say that fully unified planet is not possible, but also not the best solution.

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#12 2012-10-15 14:01:48

          Germany    Dasding23
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@NikoLStak 

I study Japanese studies and Chinese studies. My motivation for choosing these subjects were to see why exactly the Chinese and Japanese cultures are the complete opposite of my own culture. I didn't find an answer to that. It's simply because it was the wrong premise to even think that they are different.
What i found after intensive research was, that any culural difference Chinese and Japanese people show in their cultures and behavior is just another possible solution for all the same problems we also deal with in our own culture.
Something may look different in your eyes but if you try to understand it and look closer you'll always see, that every expression or action you thought to be different is driven by the very same motivation.

We're human after all so we share the same genetics, the same instincts and the same needs.

The Problem is that we didn't find a system to organize ourselves in a way that different expressions of the same matter can be understood and dealt with as such.

I think that this is a very long way to go and maybe we need to forget even the idea of an 'organization' as we imagine it today but at some point in history we will know better, in a way we can't even have the grasp of a thought of.

Maybe the internet is even the starting point of this.
20 years or so ago no one could even imagine the possibilities of it. To discuss and make friends with people you wouldn't even had had the chance to meet in your whole life before.
You can exchange ideas and thoughts from different cultures and realize that you aren't that different.

The greatest threat to nation states is the possibility of people from 'different' nations can make friends with each other.

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#13 2012-10-14 19:37:00

          Russia    NikoLStak
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@Dasding23 

If I shoot me with optimist, let's say every conflict can be resolved. But it does not change the fact we are all differents and sometime completely. It's not for nothing if the world is split in nation. Group A prefer this kind society and group B another one. One of them will leave and buildup another nation with it's own rules and values. Now these peaceful breakaway are unpossible until we colonize new worlds so it go from independence movement to revolution and sometime assimilation. All of these require a lot of blood and these event will occur daily in a unified world that refuse to deunify. In the end, even if the only border on earth become the atmosphere, it will still be as split as it was.

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#14 2012-10-11 04:58:42

          Germany    Dasding23
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 Religious enemies on the other hand would never make peace. 

 

of course they can. If you look closer into the matter of religous conflicts you will see, that almost any conflict is a conflict for ressources. (i mean ressources in a broader sense here).
I would say Protestants vs. Catholics in Northern Ireland is no religous conflict though both parties use religious terminology and being member of one of the two churches becomes a means of distinction if one's friend or foe.

The only obstacle to a unification of planet earth is the understanding and insight of its most capable inhabitants....us

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#15 2012-10-11 00:37:40

          Russia    NikoLStak
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@Dasding23 

All the European shared a similar culture. Government type does not change a lot in internationnal relation. The French of Napoleon were simply democratic imperialists that everybody in Europe hated. Then Germany got hated and then bitched by everybody with Versaille treaty. Anyway it is nothing compare to conflicts of completly opposite religion, ideology, and history. France and Germany are certainly one of the most similar sworn ennemies this world known. If it has been united, it's because Germany got in the first place forced to submit and in the second place united by 2 common enemies. Hitler that caused Germany to fall, and Stalin soon after that could have been a way bigger problem.
Religious enemies on the other hand would never make peace. The only thing jews and muslim share is circumcisions and the treat of making it illegal is the only time we seen them toghether. So until aliens invade us, don't even think about a world unification... Every countires got a rival or a ennemy. Each conflicts must be resolved before thinking to unify, if not, it will split immediatly after.

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#16 2012-10-10 21:26:53

          United States    calibur
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If hitler hadn't killed millions of Jews and pissed off Russia and America, Germany might be one of the ultrapowers (I'm coining the term, meaning super superpowers- USA, China, Russia) today.

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#17 2012-10-10 18:10:27

          Germany    Dasding23
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@NikoLStak 

 

 Most French see the word German with a Nazi sign next to it because they all know a Elder that got a lot of history about how German occupied France.

 

No. I don't know any french who thinks that way but many others who think that Germany and France are real friends.

 

 And German are thinking themselves to be the shame of Europe and to have something to pay back.  

 

No. I don't think so. And in history class they don't teach a feeling of shame.
From our own history we know, better than any other nation, that any person is capable of doing horrible things and no nation and few people are immune to such an ideology. That is why they teach us in history class about our own personal responsibility that something like that never happens again.


Also with Germany being the leading economic power in Europe I don't think we have to compensate for anything. It is, in fact exactly the opposite. They all pay for german products.
The E.U. can compensate a loss of Greece or even Italy but not a loss of Germany and many Germans know that.

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#18 2012-10-10 17:59:23

          Germany    Dasding23
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German and French only been territorial enemies...
 

 
No. France has been a Democracy long before the Germans and Germany was an Empire with the Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm I. so their ideas and ideology of how a society should be regulated was on opposite sides.

Napoleon was also responsible for shattering the union of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation.

In fact there was no common ground and other than the monarchies of Russia, England and the Scandinavian countries the German reigns had no relation or whatsoever to France. It was all two ideologies clashing against each other.

France was the 'Erbfeind', the heredetary enemy of Germany.  

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#19 2012-10-10 16:37:07

          Russia    NikoLStak
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@Dasding23 

German and French only been territorial enemies... It became national ennemies and then, after the war, the french and some others made their best to force every German to feel bad to be German because they got a evil leader... Most French see the word German with a Nazi sign next to it because they all know a Elder that got a lot of history about how German occupied France. And German are thinking themselves to be the shame of Europe and to have something to pay back. That's not a very great friendship.

And anyway, this is/was a minor rivalry compare to some. It's easy to unite French and German, the only thing that splitted them was territorial disputes and honnoring Mutual Defence Agreements. If it would have been religion or ideology, it would not have ended so easily.

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#20 2012-10-10 11:23:32

          France    RJDJ1810
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I agree there would be people killing people everywhere. also on such a big nation it would be hard to in force law.

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